RNC Corrects Oklahoma Delegate Vote
The Republican National Committee official delegate Presidential nominee vote count numbers show Oklahoma's 41 votes have been changed to show 39 votes for John McCain and 2 votes for Ron Paul, according to State Chairman Gary Jones.
Boy, that really makes a difference! Will that finally make the Paulies happy? I think not!
The two votes actually are Huckabee votes not Ron Paul's. In the February Presidential primary Huckabee won two districts. After he got out of the race he released his votes. Huckabee did suggest that the delegates vote for McCain. One of those delegates said he was voting for Paul even though he took an oath to vote for McCain. The other delegate said he would support McCain then changed his mind and voted for Paul. In Oklahoma Ron Paul received less than 2% of the votes.
It is amazing how these Paulies continue to support there candidate after they lose and lose big. What part of the word 'lose' do they not understand?
The most appalling part, the Paulies are not supporting McCain/Palin! They will either not vote or vote for some dog rather than support the Republican ticket. It looks like the same is true with other Republican candidates in local and statewide races. You must believe 100% in Ron Paul and drink the Ron Paul Kool Aid for their support.
The Paulies real agenda is to infiltrate the Republican Party and turn it into to the Libertarian Party. All conservative Republicans should be aware of their motives and help preserve the Christian values of the Republican Party.
The question is, have any of you seen a Ron Paul person out supporting our Republican candidates either financially or as volunteers for candidates?
Bob
Showing posts with label Ron Paul. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Ron Paul. Show all posts
Saturday, September 20, 2008
Monday, September 1, 2008
Paulies
Ron Paul followers gathering for own convention
By Suzanne Gamboa
Associated Press Writer
Article Last Updated: 08/30/2008 06:40:42 PM CDT
WASHINGTON (AP) _ There's no room at the Xcel Energy Center for maverick Ron Paul, so his acolytes have packed their cars, hitched rides on "Ronvoys" and will pitch tents at Ronstock '08 in defiance of next week's GOP convention in St. Paul, Minn.
Almost 9,800 tickets had been sold for the Rally for the Republic, being held in Minneapolis, which seeks to bring together activists who are anti-war, anti-government regulation, anti-immigration, anti-taxes, anti-Federal Reserve, anti-outsourcing, pro-individual liberty, pro-civil liberties and pro-Paul.
The Ronvoys _ fleets of buses and vans carrying Paul's loyalists _ were to begin arriving Saturday. A few rally-goers planned to walk from Green Bay, Wis., and join up with Paul for the final miles of their Walk4Freedom. Other attendees are driving, carpooling or flying in for the convention alternative.
Paul, a Texas congressman who failed in a bid for the Republican presidential nomination, considers the rally a celebration of traditional Republican values of limited government _ and a poke in the eye of the GOP. They don't plan to crash the Republican party, but to show they and their Campaign for Liberty are not going away.
"No matter how much our message is ignored or ridiculed, as was done in the campaign, no matter how much they did to us, it only energized our grass roots," Paul said.
The rally builds on Paul's presidential bid, in which he set a record for single-day fundraising on the Web and touched a nerve with some disaffected voters, largely in the Republican Party.
In a few Western states, Paul was a serious contender for votes, placing second ahead of Republican John McCain in Nevada and Montana. He drew 14 percent from McCain in New Mexico, a battleground state.
But Paul has no speaking role at the GOP convention. He said his staff made overtures to the party, but nothing came of its efforts.
Republican Party spokeswoman Joanna Burgos said she had to research whether Paul was invited to speak when asked about a convention role for Paul.
"Our focus is really on this side of the river," Burgos said. "We think there's enough excitement and energy on this side." McCain's campaign spokesman did not return a phone message.
Paul's faithful still hope to permeate the ranks of the establishment by winning local and state races and pulling in disenchanted party members. There are a couple dozen Paul delegates attending the GOP convention, though some loyalists say there are more delegates who support Paul.
Meanwhile, their focus is on their own political convergence in Minneapolis.
By Suzanne Gamboa
Associated Press Writer
Article Last Updated: 08/30/2008 06:40:42 PM CDT
WASHINGTON (AP) _ There's no room at the Xcel Energy Center for maverick Ron Paul, so his acolytes have packed their cars, hitched rides on "Ronvoys" and will pitch tents at Ronstock '08 in defiance of next week's GOP convention in St. Paul, Minn.
Almost 9,800 tickets had been sold for the Rally for the Republic, being held in Minneapolis, which seeks to bring together activists who are anti-war, anti-government regulation, anti-immigration, anti-taxes, anti-Federal Reserve, anti-outsourcing, pro-individual liberty, pro-civil liberties and pro-Paul.
The Ronvoys _ fleets of buses and vans carrying Paul's loyalists _ were to begin arriving Saturday. A few rally-goers planned to walk from Green Bay, Wis., and join up with Paul for the final miles of their Walk4Freedom. Other attendees are driving, carpooling or flying in for the convention alternative.
Paul, a Texas congressman who failed in a bid for the Republican presidential nomination, considers the rally a celebration of traditional Republican values of limited government _ and a poke in the eye of the GOP. They don't plan to crash the Republican party, but to show they and their Campaign for Liberty are not going away.
"No matter how much our message is ignored or ridiculed, as was done in the campaign, no matter how much they did to us, it only energized our grass roots," Paul said.
The rally builds on Paul's presidential bid, in which he set a record for single-day fundraising on the Web and touched a nerve with some disaffected voters, largely in the Republican Party.
In a few Western states, Paul was a serious contender for votes, placing second ahead of Republican John McCain in Nevada and Montana. He drew 14 percent from McCain in New Mexico, a battleground state.
But Paul has no speaking role at the GOP convention. He said his staff made overtures to the party, but nothing came of its efforts.
Republican Party spokeswoman Joanna Burgos said she had to research whether Paul was invited to speak when asked about a convention role for Paul.
"Our focus is really on this side of the river," Burgos said. "We think there's enough excitement and energy on this side." McCain's campaign spokesman did not return a phone message.
Paul's faithful still hope to permeate the ranks of the establishment by winning local and state races and pulling in disenchanted party members. There are a couple dozen Paul delegates attending the GOP convention, though some loyalists say there are more delegates who support Paul.
Meanwhile, their focus is on their own political convergence in Minneapolis.
Saturday, August 23, 2008
Ron Paul
The National Republican Credential Committee will be hearing both sides debate the issues starting next Thursday. Pam Pollard and Bobby Cleveland were elected to represent Oklahoma to the National Republican Credentials Committee.
Bob
GOP Fight in Nevada Could Cause McCain Trouble
Delegation Split May Prompt Votes For Libertarians
By BRAD HAYNESAugust 23, 2008; Page A4
PAHRUMP, NEV. -- Two Nevada delegations are packing their bags for the Republican National Convention Sept. 1, and if the latest party ruling stands, neither of them will be seated.
A fiasco at the state convention spawned the dueling delegations -- one for John McCain and one for Ron Paul -- and their continued wrangling has exposed a split in the party that may spell trouble in a key state for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee.
Associated Press
Former presidential candidate Ron Paul speaks to the crowd as he is welcomed at the Nevada Republican Convention on April 26.
Running a strident libertarian campaign in the primaries, Texas Rep. Ron Paul tapped a seam of Republican frustration across the country, railing against the Bush administration's impact on civil liberties, foreign policy and the growing federal government. Mr. Paul's message resonated particularly in Nevada, a state where frontier spirit and personal freedom runs deep, and he captured second place in the January state caucuses, ahead of Sen. McCain.
Mr. Paul has suspended his campaign, but his libertarian loyalists have not. Their lingering discontentment and underlying philosophical differences may prove fertile territory for the Libertarian Party's presidential nominee, Bob Barr, and dangerous ground for Sen. McCain if even a portion of the Republican base is too disgruntled to vote. Nevada is shaping up as a key battleground in the presidential race; President Bush won the state by roughly 20,000 votes in each of the last two elections, and Democrats are contesting it strongly this year. Republican hopes in Nevada have also been hampered by the scandal-plagued GOP governor, Jim Gibbons, whose approval ratings have tanked as he has dealt with a messy divorce and a federal corruption investigation.
In April, riding high on a second-place showing in the Silver State, the grass-roots Paul supporters were well represented and well organized at the Republican state convention. Winning a key rule change, the Paul delegation began electing a majority slate for its candidate, when party officials dropped the gavel, turned out the lights and adjourned the convention indefinitely.
The state party leadership went on to appoint a slate of McCain delegates to the national convention by private conference call. Meanwhile, the spurned Paul faction gathered for its own "reconvention" to produce a competing delegation. In a decision Aug. 5, the national party's contest committee recommended against seating either slate, citing flaws in the selection process. The fate of Nevada's 34 seats at the Republican National Convention may not be decided until the final days before it begins.
At least one of the delegations will have alternative plans in St. Paul if they can't get past the door of the convention. Mr. Paul will be hosting his Rally for the Republic across town just as the Republican Party is assembling for its moment of unity.
The Texas congressman has not taken a position on Nevada's delegation dispute, but his campaign spokesman said he won't be pushing his supporters in Minnesota toward Sen. McCain. "There are some really good candidates running third-party campaigns," said spokesman Jesse Benton. "If the GOP happens to lose because they've abandoned their principles and traditions, maybe that will be a signal for the future."
More than the distraction in Minnesota, Sen. McCain may have to worry what discontented Ron Paul voters are doing back in Nevada, where longtime Republicans with a libertarian streak are already discussing alternatives to the party establishment.
In the city of Pahrump, 60 nearly barren miles west of Las Vegas, in a windowless tavern called Irene's Casino, a group of friends gathered to pass around a bottle of Ron Paul Revolution Cola and discuss how the Republican Party had wronged them.
This is a place where people move to be left alone, where mobile homes are sold as Freedom Homes and where Mr. Paul won the local Republican caucus, as his campaign signs along the highway still attest. He owed his victory to spontaneous gatherings like this one, where supporters fed up with the size of government, the Iraq war and the incursions on their civil liberties organized their own grassroots campaign.
"Out here folks draw water from their own well," said compatriot Kenny Bent, a former rancher, miner and lumberjack with long gray hair and mustache past his lower lip. "They have their own sewage system. They don't need the government and they don't want its intrusion."
Across the state, lifelong Republicans like Mr. Bent who now identify more closely with Mr. Paul's cause than with the party establishment say they won't vote for Sen. McCain.
The McCain campaign maintains that Nevada is a natural fit for the candidate. "He's a Western senator. He understands the issues, from water to public lands, that affect Westerners," said spokesman Rick Gorka. "And he's independent. He's a maverick. That has tremendous appeal in Nevada."
But the hard-line libertarian voters see Sen. McCain as the embodiment of a Republican Party they no longer trust to protect their freedoms. Citing the campaign finance rules and ban on college sports betting that he championed, many conservatives are rejecting the presumptive Republican nominee along with the party establishment.
Recent history shows Nevada's frustrated conservatives can swing an election. The last Texan presidential candidate preaching small government, Ross Perot, took 10% of the vote here in 1992 and 27% in 1996, helping Democrat Bill Clinton to carry the state both times. A Libertarian Senate candidate in 1998 tipped a close race to Majority Leader Harry Reid.
Mr. Barr's running mate, Wayne Allyn Root, a sports-betting entrepreneur and resident of greater Las Vegas, says their campaign is perfectly suited for his home state, citing Nevada's low taxes, frontier spirit and premium on personal freedom.
"We're all about turning America into a great big Nevada," Mr. Root said. "Nevada proves the model works."
Write to Brad Haynes at brad.haynes@dowjones.com
Bob
GOP Fight in Nevada Could Cause McCain Trouble
Delegation Split May Prompt Votes For Libertarians
By BRAD HAYNESAugust 23, 2008; Page A4
PAHRUMP, NEV. -- Two Nevada delegations are packing their bags for the Republican National Convention Sept. 1, and if the latest party ruling stands, neither of them will be seated.
A fiasco at the state convention spawned the dueling delegations -- one for John McCain and one for Ron Paul -- and their continued wrangling has exposed a split in the party that may spell trouble in a key state for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee.
Associated Press
Former presidential candidate Ron Paul speaks to the crowd as he is welcomed at the Nevada Republican Convention on April 26.
Running a strident libertarian campaign in the primaries, Texas Rep. Ron Paul tapped a seam of Republican frustration across the country, railing against the Bush administration's impact on civil liberties, foreign policy and the growing federal government. Mr. Paul's message resonated particularly in Nevada, a state where frontier spirit and personal freedom runs deep, and he captured second place in the January state caucuses, ahead of Sen. McCain.
Mr. Paul has suspended his campaign, but his libertarian loyalists have not. Their lingering discontentment and underlying philosophical differences may prove fertile territory for the Libertarian Party's presidential nominee, Bob Barr, and dangerous ground for Sen. McCain if even a portion of the Republican base is too disgruntled to vote. Nevada is shaping up as a key battleground in the presidential race; President Bush won the state by roughly 20,000 votes in each of the last two elections, and Democrats are contesting it strongly this year. Republican hopes in Nevada have also been hampered by the scandal-plagued GOP governor, Jim Gibbons, whose approval ratings have tanked as he has dealt with a messy divorce and a federal corruption investigation.
In April, riding high on a second-place showing in the Silver State, the grass-roots Paul supporters were well represented and well organized at the Republican state convention. Winning a key rule change, the Paul delegation began electing a majority slate for its candidate, when party officials dropped the gavel, turned out the lights and adjourned the convention indefinitely.
The state party leadership went on to appoint a slate of McCain delegates to the national convention by private conference call. Meanwhile, the spurned Paul faction gathered for its own "reconvention" to produce a competing delegation. In a decision Aug. 5, the national party's contest committee recommended against seating either slate, citing flaws in the selection process. The fate of Nevada's 34 seats at the Republican National Convention may not be decided until the final days before it begins.
At least one of the delegations will have alternative plans in St. Paul if they can't get past the door of the convention. Mr. Paul will be hosting his Rally for the Republic across town just as the Republican Party is assembling for its moment of unity.
The Texas congressman has not taken a position on Nevada's delegation dispute, but his campaign spokesman said he won't be pushing his supporters in Minnesota toward Sen. McCain. "There are some really good candidates running third-party campaigns," said spokesman Jesse Benton. "If the GOP happens to lose because they've abandoned their principles and traditions, maybe that will be a signal for the future."
More than the distraction in Minnesota, Sen. McCain may have to worry what discontented Ron Paul voters are doing back in Nevada, where longtime Republicans with a libertarian streak are already discussing alternatives to the party establishment.
In the city of Pahrump, 60 nearly barren miles west of Las Vegas, in a windowless tavern called Irene's Casino, a group of friends gathered to pass around a bottle of Ron Paul Revolution Cola and discuss how the Republican Party had wronged them.
This is a place where people move to be left alone, where mobile homes are sold as Freedom Homes and where Mr. Paul won the local Republican caucus, as his campaign signs along the highway still attest. He owed his victory to spontaneous gatherings like this one, where supporters fed up with the size of government, the Iraq war and the incursions on their civil liberties organized their own grassroots campaign.
"Out here folks draw water from their own well," said compatriot Kenny Bent, a former rancher, miner and lumberjack with long gray hair and mustache past his lower lip. "They have their own sewage system. They don't need the government and they don't want its intrusion."
Across the state, lifelong Republicans like Mr. Bent who now identify more closely with Mr. Paul's cause than with the party establishment say they won't vote for Sen. McCain.
The McCain campaign maintains that Nevada is a natural fit for the candidate. "He's a Western senator. He understands the issues, from water to public lands, that affect Westerners," said spokesman Rick Gorka. "And he's independent. He's a maverick. That has tremendous appeal in Nevada."
But the hard-line libertarian voters see Sen. McCain as the embodiment of a Republican Party they no longer trust to protect their freedoms. Citing the campaign finance rules and ban on college sports betting that he championed, many conservatives are rejecting the presumptive Republican nominee along with the party establishment.
Recent history shows Nevada's frustrated conservatives can swing an election. The last Texan presidential candidate preaching small government, Ross Perot, took 10% of the vote here in 1992 and 27% in 1996, helping Democrat Bill Clinton to carry the state both times. A Libertarian Senate candidate in 1998 tipped a close race to Majority Leader Harry Reid.
Mr. Barr's running mate, Wayne Allyn Root, a sports-betting entrepreneur and resident of greater Las Vegas, says their campaign is perfectly suited for his home state, citing Nevada's low taxes, frontier spirit and premium on personal freedom.
"We're all about turning America into a great big Nevada," Mr. Root said. "Nevada proves the model works."
Write to Brad Haynes at brad.haynes@dowjones.com
Sunday, July 20, 2008
Ron Paul Group Still Trying In Nevada
A group of state Republican delegates are suing the Nevada GOP to try to earn representation at the National Convention.
The lawsuit comes just two days after the State Party announced it will appoint national delegates without re-convening the initial state convention.
The group filing the lawsuit mostly consists of Ron Paul delegates, but one activist says the litigation is less about McCain versus Paul and more about right versus wrong.
"The GOP is illegal in writing up their own slate behind closed doors," says Doctor Wayne Terhune a Republican activist. "And we want to put a halt to that and make the GOP accept the June 28th delegation."
Terhune helped pay for the convention that produced what those involved are calling the only legitimate republican delegation in the state.
Party officials intended to appoint delegates back in April, but called a recess when a vocal group of Ron Paul supporters protested rule changes.
Washoe County Republican Chair Heidi Smith says the final say on which delegates go to Minneapolis will likely be made by politicians and not lawyers.
"We'll have to wait and see what the State Party attorneys say, but I feel, in the end, the Republican National Committee will make the decision."
Terhune says he and Mike Weber, who chaired the June convention will likely take their case before the National Committee. It's a move that would seemingly contribute to the ongoing division within, but Smith says that's politics; and what grows apart, will eventually come together.
"It's somewhat like Obama and Hillary," says Smith. "You had fighting between those two and then they came together. So, in this respect, we're the same way in that we have two sides that are arguing the interpretation of the law, but when it comes to republican politics, they're all together."
Terhune says he expects a decision on this lawsuit to come sometime next week.
The National Republican Convention kicks off on September 1.
The lawsuit comes just two days after the State Party announced it will appoint national delegates without re-convening the initial state convention.
The group filing the lawsuit mostly consists of Ron Paul delegates, but one activist says the litigation is less about McCain versus Paul and more about right versus wrong.
"The GOP is illegal in writing up their own slate behind closed doors," says Doctor Wayne Terhune a Republican activist. "And we want to put a halt to that and make the GOP accept the June 28th delegation."
Terhune helped pay for the convention that produced what those involved are calling the only legitimate republican delegation in the state.
Party officials intended to appoint delegates back in April, but called a recess when a vocal group of Ron Paul supporters protested rule changes.
Washoe County Republican Chair Heidi Smith says the final say on which delegates go to Minneapolis will likely be made by politicians and not lawyers.
"We'll have to wait and see what the State Party attorneys say, but I feel, in the end, the Republican National Committee will make the decision."
Terhune says he and Mike Weber, who chaired the June convention will likely take their case before the National Committee. It's a move that would seemingly contribute to the ongoing division within, but Smith says that's politics; and what grows apart, will eventually come together.
"It's somewhat like Obama and Hillary," says Smith. "You had fighting between those two and then they came together. So, in this respect, we're the same way in that we have two sides that are arguing the interpretation of the law, but when it comes to republican politics, they're all together."
Terhune says he expects a decision on this lawsuit to come sometime next week.
The National Republican Convention kicks off on September 1.
Saturday, June 14, 2008
Ron Paul Not The Answer
I agree that Ron Paul sounds good. Hopefully all conservatives agree that the Republican Party needs to veer back and stay true to it's traditions and remain a limited government party.
It is the messenger not message that is the problem with Ron Paul. How can you support someone for President, that tells your followers to lie! Sorry Ron Paul supporters, but Ron Paul sounds like a nut, every time I watched him on TV. If you get someone with a winning personality and with the same talking points you might have a legit Presidential candidate. If the Paulies were not so militant, Ron Paul might have resonated. Bob
Candidate Paul Is Gone, But Not Really
By Marie Horrigan, CQ Staff
Texas Rep. Ron Paul has officially called off his quest for the Republican presidential nomination, more than two months after John McCain secured enough delegates to clinch the nomination. But with frequent events scheduled in the next two months, Paul apparently has no intention of giving up his libertarian fight.
“What I see happening now is hardly the end of anything. I think this is the beginning of something really, really big that’s going on in this country,” Paul told supporters Thursday night when he announced his withdrawal.
Benton said that while the event would be an opportunity to remind Republicans that there is a large contingent of people interested in moving the party back “to its roots.”
“The Republican Party needs to veer back and stay true to its traditions and remain a limited government party and maybe even become a limited government party once again,” he said.
Meanwhile, Paul supporters are also planning on holding an alternate state convention for Nevada Republicans. The state party recessed its April 26 convention without certifying delegates for Paul and McCain after a procedural move by Paul supporters and Republican activists stalled progress on selecting delegates.
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney won the Nevada caucus with 53 percent of the vote; McCain and Paul tied with 13 percent each.
The delegates to the state convention will reconvene at a party-sanctioned event in Reno on July 26 to complete the process, but Paul supporters plan to meet nearly a month earlier — June 28 — at the Reno Grand Sierra to try to do so. The state party has said the Republican National Committee will not recognize any selections made at the June 28 meeting.
It is the messenger not message that is the problem with Ron Paul. How can you support someone for President, that tells your followers to lie! Sorry Ron Paul supporters, but Ron Paul sounds like a nut, every time I watched him on TV. If you get someone with a winning personality and with the same talking points you might have a legit Presidential candidate. If the Paulies were not so militant, Ron Paul might have resonated. Bob
Candidate Paul Is Gone, But Not Really
By Marie Horrigan, CQ Staff
Texas Rep. Ron Paul has officially called off his quest for the Republican presidential nomination, more than two months after John McCain secured enough delegates to clinch the nomination. But with frequent events scheduled in the next two months, Paul apparently has no intention of giving up his libertarian fight.
“What I see happening now is hardly the end of anything. I think this is the beginning of something really, really big that’s going on in this country,” Paul told supporters Thursday night when he announced his withdrawal.
Benton said that while the event would be an opportunity to remind Republicans that there is a large contingent of people interested in moving the party back “to its roots.”
“The Republican Party needs to veer back and stay true to its traditions and remain a limited government party and maybe even become a limited government party once again,” he said.
Meanwhile, Paul supporters are also planning on holding an alternate state convention for Nevada Republicans. The state party recessed its April 26 convention without certifying delegates for Paul and McCain after a procedural move by Paul supporters and Republican activists stalled progress on selecting delegates.
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney won the Nevada caucus with 53 percent of the vote; McCain and Paul tied with 13 percent each.
The delegates to the state convention will reconvene at a party-sanctioned event in Reno on July 26 to complete the process, but Paul supporters plan to meet nearly a month earlier — June 28 — at the Reno Grand Sierra to try to do so. The state party has said the Republican National Committee will not recognize any selections made at the June 28 meeting.
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